Quantum Theologica

Quantum Theologica unites theology and science. This is a spiritual based philosophy that allows for the free discussion of science, ufology and the paranormal. We encourage members of all faiths to comment. Theology is an important part of this because religious texts are full of spiritual truths about the nature of reality. “The day Science begins to study nonphysical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all previous centuries of its existence.” NIKOLA TESLA

Monday, July 26, 2004

Quantum Metaphysics

When I say Quantum metaphysics I'm talking about how the study of quantum mechanics points to the metaphysical. Specifically, I'm talking about David Bohm and his hidden variables theory. His hidden variables theory is compatible with Heisenburg Uncertainty Principle and also Copenhagen Interpretation.

First lets start with the Copenhagen Interpretation. You can't talk about this subject without talking about the conversations that took place between Einstein and Neils Bohr. Basically Bohr argued that the position or momentum of a subatomic particle cannot be realized until measured by an observer. What bothered most about this interpretation was how prominent the observer was in Copenhagen. They couldn't define what an observer was, so many were disturbed by the metaphysical implications. Bohr basically said we can't know the state before measurement so there is no need to discuss it, this also matched the Uncertainty Principle. Obviously this didn't sit well with the ego and arrogence of many who study this field. Telling them that this is something they can't know, but they just have to accept it, was too metaphysical for many. Einstein called it "spooky action at a distance", he expected the subatomic realm to work like classical physics. So him and Bohr went at it and eventually Einstein and colleagues came up with the EPR Paradox. This basically said that subatomic particles couldn't communicate after a certain distance without faster than light communication, and this would violate relativity. This would be like two basketballs, one in Chicago and one in Las Vegas, whose moves correlate with each other. Einstein found Bohr's conclusion that a particle's properties don't exist until they are observed objectionable because, it implied that subatomic particles were interconnected in a way Einstein didn't believe was possible. So Einstein, Boris Podolsky and Nathan Rosen published a paper entitled,"Can Quantum-Mechanical Description of Reality be Considered Complete?". Bohr said since subatomic particles don't exist until observed, then you can no longer think of them as independant things. They were part of an indivisible system, and it was meaningless to think of them otherwise. Along came John Bell and Bell's Theorum who was troubled like Einstein. The assumption states that a measurement at one point in space cannot influence what occurs at another point in space if the distance between the points is large enough so that no signal can travel between them. What was indicated by Bells Theorum, that similar correlations would exist even if experiments could be performed where the distance between the points was halfway across the universe. In other words when you made a measurement on one particle it was like it instantly communicated with its twin paricle, so reality is non-local and Bohr was right.

Bohm was troubled also, but he didn't reject this out of hand. Instead he said these particles exist before observation and are held up by hidden variables. In other words there was something hidden and unknown that governed reality. He called this the implicate order and what we see is the explicate order that originates from the implicate order. He went onto say how the microscopic and the macroscopic was part of an interconnected whole and that these subatomic particles were guided by what he called pilot-waves. The reason why this interpretation fits, I believe, is because it works with the interconnection showed with Bells Theorum. That on some deeper level things are interconnected and while we are in the explicate order, or as I believe this is just another way of saying a fallen state, we can't see it. This also fits with the Uncertainty Principle:

dp x dx > h

Simple, it's saying that at a certain level (h, plancks constant), you can know (p, momentum) but you can't know (x, position) and vice versa. At this level we deal with probabilities. So the hidden or unkown variables balance out the uncertainty. I believe we exist on a 3-dimensional p-brane on a massive m-brane. On the 3-dimensiol p-brane it reads dp x dx > h but on the m-brane it's dp x dx > 0. This fits with Minkowski space-time which is like a frozen snapshot of eternity. This is named after Hermann Minkowski one of Einsteins physics teachers. According to Minkowkski the past still exists as well as the future. This ties in with Fractal Geometry and it has Metaphysical implications.

What now takes place is many pushing the many-worlds interpretation to try and avoid the collapse of the wave function to minimize the role of an observer. I was reading a book called "Ghost in the Atom" and there were different interviews and one in particular jumpded out at me. It was with David Deutsch, winner of the Paul Dirac Medal and big proponent of many-worlds, he said many-worlds interpretation is needed to counter the role of the observer. Many worlds basically states that all possibilities are realized. So when you are deciding whats for dinner all possibilities happen but in different worlds. So you eat chicken, steak and fish in three seperate worlds. This is how troubling the role of an observer is for many, it points to the metaphysical. I believe many-histories fits better and also goes with Minkowski space-time. These histories exist in a static or frozen state until observed. This also goes with Fractal Geometry where the third dimension is solid, such as a cube. It contains an infinite number of planes and squares frozen as solids in the third dimension. In the fourth dimension, the infinite number of solids are in relationship with each other through time and energy. The Fourth Dimension moves the Third Dimension to form a wave that travels through space-time. So the first, second and third dimensions are seperated by fractals that are connected by the time and energy in the fourth dimension. This also matches with quantum physics. Benoit Mandelbrots set, z->z^2+c, which shows that in nature fractal patterns are repeated over and over again to form objects we see in nature, it's recursive. For example, if you look at a mountain you will find the same basic shape repeated on a smaller scale. Jonathan Swift summed it up in 1773 when he wrote:

So, nat'ralist observe a flea, Hath smaller fleas that on them prey, and these have smaller fleas to bite' em, and so proceed ad infinitum.

This reminds me of the story of Paul in Athens when he said:

Acts 17:23 For as I passed by and beheld your devotions, I found an alter with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.


Wednesday, July 14, 2004

Relatively Speaking

The universe is less than 6,000 years old. It's a case of universal time vs. relative time. The universe is billions of years old based on earth based time. To measure the age of the universe, we look back in time from our perspective of time. The Bible looks forward in time from the Creation, encompassing the entire universe.

This is why the Jewish Calendar starts with Adam. Thousands of years ago they realized that the six days in Genesis was longer periods of time from our perspective. The Bible says:

Remember the days of old(six days), consider the years of each generation(Adam) Deuteronomy 32:7

The Bible realizes the role the observer plays in the universe. There were no human observers before Adam, so Genesis 1 goes by the cosmic time of the universe relative to earth based time before an observer was Created on earth.

Where the mix up comes into play is when you try to age the earth according to our perception of time, which is temporal. In Genesis the Bible is talking about universal time of the whole universe.
Just think, the writer of Genesis recognized that earth based time didn't start until Adam.  This is astounding, so what he did was write the first chapter of Genesis from the perspective of the entire universe.  The earth is young relative to the entire universe.  The writer of Genesis knew this because he was led by the Spirit.

It's a million million to one ratio between the earth and cosmic time.  This is based on a million millionfold stretching of waves of radiation since the physical universe began.  So 120 million years in the time we experience would be one hour in cosmic time.  The kicker is, a million million divided by 15 billion is six days!
It's good to see science is starting to catch up to the Bible.

Tuesday, July 13, 2004

Clouds in the Bible

I believe there exists extraterrestrial life and I try not to define it. Since the dawn of civilization man has recorded these flying objects. From caves, to ancient manuscripts, to paintings, to photographs then video. Through every step of the way these flying objects have been with us. There are thousands of cases that have been investigated and they can't say what they are. Astronauts would say, yes, there is a santa claus as a way of telling the control tower that they see UFO's. I don't let hollywood and the comics define for me what these flying objects are, because the Word says, "Behold, He cometh with clouds". Could the second coming be mistaken as an invasion? What are clouds in the Bible? Remember there was nothing in the sky but birds and clouds in those days. You have a cloud that glows in the dark, that hovers and that takes people up into the cloud. The Bible says,"Come, let us reason together".

Look at these verses:

Matthew 17:5 While He yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, this is My Beloved Son, in whom Iam well pleased; hear Him.

Luke 9:34 While He thus spake, there came a cloud and overshadowed them: and they feared as they entered into the cloud. 35 And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is My Beloved Son: hear Him.

Exodus 24:18 And Moses went into the midst of the cloud, and gat him up into the mount: and Moses was in the mount forty days and forty nights.
Exodus 19:16 And mount Sinai was altogether on smoke, because the Lord descended upon it in fire:  and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly.
Now where do you see something similar?  When you watch a rocket taking off, you see fire descend and smoke ascend.  A similar scene, and imagine people back then seeing something like this.  They would also describe these things according to their times.   That's why it is good to read the Bible while imagining their perspective.  You will see they are trying to describe planes and helicopters from future wars and also spacecraft.
There are flying chariots among other things and I don't try to define them according to what society says about these flying objects. I'm sure the Truth will eventually be Revealed.

There is more evidence for the existence of UFO's than there is for many theories in science. You could win a court case with this evidence. It's time for people who see otherwise to show some counter evidence. All I hear is it must be mass hysteria or light from a lighthouse with no evidence to back the claim. I think people don't want to accept it because they can control a scientific theory but they can't control a higher intelligence.

"I am convinced that UFOs exist because I have seen one."
Jimmy Carter Former U.S. President, five-time nominee for the Nobel Peace Prize.

"Mission Control, please be informed, there is a Santa Claus."
James Lovell was commander of the ill-fated Apollo-13 mission.

"...I've been asked about UFOs and I've said publicly I thought they were somebody else, some other civilization."
Eugene Cernan commanded the Apollo 17 Mission-The quote is from a 1973 article in the Los Angeles Times.

"At no time, when the astronauts were in space were they alone: there was a constant surveillance by UFOs."
Scott Carpenter photographed a UFO while in orbit on May 24, 1962. NASA still has not released the photograph.

These are just a few quotes. Imagine if each of these people and more like them came in the courtroom and took the stand. Then imagine showing evidence of UFO's being recorded since the dawn of civilization. Next you show the thousands of cases that have been investigated and no other conclusion could be reached.


Wednesday, July 07, 2004

Grasping The Gnat

I will talk about Fractal Dimensions another time, because this subject crossed my heart. I think it's all well and good that we talk about various things, but the God's Grace and the Power of His Love can never be talked about enough. Jesus said,"some strain at a gnat and swallow a camel". In other words, people can swallow the so called deep things of the world, but they can't grasp the simple yet profound message of the Grace of God. Grace is recieving something you don't deserve, like if you get all F's in your classes in school, but you get credited with a perfect score in each class. See, For God so Loved the World He sent His Only Son to to get a Perfect Score and we can be Credited with that Perfect Score, no matter what are score in life is.

When I chat with atheist or agnostics I often get asked,"how can you believe in something so simple?" My reply is, since God loves us so why should He make it complex for us to recieve His Grace through His Son The Lord Jesus Christ. This makes me think to my childhood. When I was young and I got sick my mother and father would stay up all through the night sometimes and walk me to sleep. My mom sometimes tells stories on how it was really hard sometimes to get me to sleep when I was real sick so they would take turns carrying me until I fell asleep. When my mom was finished with the stories I didn't ask, well why did you do it, I knew why. So when God offers us something as a gift, should you be asking why?

The Grace of God dwarfs any opinions from Einstein, Hawking or any of the others. It's about humbling yourself before God and that is where pride and the vanity of life comes in. Submitting your will to God's Will is very profound and Jesus stressed this in the Garden of Getheseme when He said in Matthew 26:39 And He went a little farther, and fell on His face and Prayed, saying, O My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt. The Lord's prayer states,"God's Will be done on earth as in Heaven". Throughout scripture it stresses doing God's Will and not your own. Ecclesiastes in chaper 1 verse 2:

Vanity of vanities, says the preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity.

Vanity of life stops some fom humbling themselves before God. That's pride.


The Answer

I then get asked, who did Adam mix with?

He mixed with homo erectus and archaic homo sapien, mankind, the whole homo genus. Mankind(Image) Adam(Likeness). Mankind is connected to the beast of the earth(evolution) Adam comes from the dust of the ground. Mankind was embodied with a soul, Adam became a living soul when he recieved the breath of life from God.

Genesis 1:26,27

26: And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:

27 So God Created man in his own image, in the image of God Created He him; male and female Created He them.

If you notice in verse 26 it say, Let us mak man in our Image, after our likeness. In the next verse, 27, it's Image only. After the story of Adam in Genesis 5:1 it says:

1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God Created man, in the Likeness of God made He him.

If you notice it's likeness only. Mankind(Image) Adam(Likeness).


Friday, July 02, 2004

The Question

The question I hear asked alot is, what about the long ages of Adam or Noah?

I have a theory on this. I believe once Adam mixed with mankind they became more ordered. I base this on Thermodynamics, when the state becomes more ordered entropy decreases.

Basically, if my room is filled with dirty clothes it will take more energy to clean it than if my room had only a few dirty clothes. My room with more dirty clothes is in a higher state of entropy(disordered) and my room with less dirty clothes is is in a state of lower entropy(ordered). This is just a quick explanation of entropy.

I believe that this explains the longer years and this is why they were more advanced. This is the advanced civilization that preceded us, that many cultures talk about and they were destroyed by the Divine Judgement of God. I think they were in a lower state of entropy than us and therefore in a more ordered state.

I then get asked, who did Adam mix with? I will give you the answer next week along with the post about Fractal Geometry and the 4th dimension.


Quantum Theologica: Volume 1

When I say Quantum Theologica, I'm talking about the relation between the Macroscopic and the Microscopic. In this 1st volume I will discuss 3 areas related to Quantum Theologica. First, aspects of the Resurrected body, second the invisible reality of the Creation of the universe and third David Bohm's theory of an Implicate and Explicate Order.

Resurrected Body

In Quantum Theologica the proposition is made that some aspects of the Ressurected Body is supported by Quantum Physics. For example, after the Resurrection, Christ materializes in the same room as the disciples (Luke 24:36-37, John 20:19). Going through walls might not be achieved on a macroscopic level but on a microsocpic and macroscopic level combined it is extremely plausible. This ties in to David Bohm's theory of an implicate and explicate order, which I will get into later. Sub- atomic particles can tunnel through an energy barrier and materialize on the other side. Also, a particle can be in two places at the same time, this was learned through the double-slit experiment. In short, this experiment shows the wave-particle duality of light. This shows that one aspect of a Resurrected Body is that it is able to travel as a sub-atomic particle(microscopic) but appear as a measuring device(macroscopic). I believe after death you still exist in a Quantum state, which I will discuss in Volume 2. I also believe what is seen as supernatural is more natural in reality. In other words, where we appear on our worldline is how we percieve events. Nature testifies to God's Divine Hand in Creation, I will also get deeper into this in Volume 2. In our Ressurected bodies we should be able to go back and forth between the microscopic state and the macroscopic state. The interconnection that has been broken will be re-connected through the Saving Grace of Jesus Christ. Quantum Cosmology is an example of combining the macroscopic and the microscopic worlds. We all also have a Schrodinger's probability wave and if we could see it, it would resemble our bodies. The wave function is connected to our bodies(measuring device), this is supported by the Copenhagen Interpretation.

Invisible Reality of Creation

For the invisible things (sub-atomic particles) of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made (Us), even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Romans 1:20

This verse and others clearly state that we would clearly understand the invisible "things" of Creation. In other words, we would CLEARLY see these "invisible" things that were present at the Creation of the world. It also says we would understand these things. Most of the universe is invisible and unknown, the visible matter makes up a little over 4% of the universe, the rest is dark energy and dark matter. Scientist still don't know why dark energy is repulsive instead of attractive and they don't know all the properties of dark matter. This brings to mind another verse:

For by him were all things Created, that are in Heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were Created by him, and for him: Colossians 1:16


Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the Word of God, so that things which are seen (matter) were not made of things which do appear (sub-atomic particles). Hebrews 11:3

The word framed is the Greek word katartizo.

In other words, the fine-tuning of the worlds was completed in imaginary time and it manifest itself in real time as the laws of physics which governs the universe.

Stephen Hawking writes:

Quantum theory introduces a new idea, that of imaginary time. Imaginary time may sound like science fiction, and it has been brought into Doctor Who [an English Star Trek]. But never the less, it is a genuine scientific concept. One can picture it in the following way. One can think of ordinary, real, time as a horizontal line. On the left, one has the past, and on the right, the future. But there's another kind of time in the vertical direction. This is called imaginary time, because it is not the kind of time we normally experience. But in a sense, it is just as real, as what we call real time.

Later he writes:

This might suggest that the so-called imaginary time is really the real time, and that what we call real time is just a figment of our imaginations. In real time, the universe has a beginning and an end at singularities that form a boundary to space-time and at which the laws of science break down. But in imaginary time, there are no singularities or boundaries. So maybe what we call imaginary time is really more basic, and what we call real is just an idea that we invent to help us describe what we think the universe is like.

So the real time that we experience exist within the reality of imaginary time. Hawking could have came to this conclusion reading the Bible. God trandscends our time and I believe that we exisist partly in imaginary time and partly in real time. For example, we witness past-future events happening in the eternal now. Just pick up a glass or hit a letter on your keyboard and you are observing the past and the future happening simultaneusly. It's like your watching a movie, from inside your body, in real time while your true existence is in imaginary time.

I believe that the time that we experience is basically waves flowing on the surface of space. For example, when you skip a rock in a pond waves manifest on the surface of the water. Even though Einstien showed that time is relative to the observer, time seems to flow constant because of c, the speed of light and G, the gravitational constant. Just like we still hear noise from the big bang I think we still experience the motion from the big bang also.

Implicate and Explicate Order

I first read about David Bohm's theory in a book called, Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot. The first thing that came to mind was the fall of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. Essentially Bohm is saying that the macroscopic and the microscopic were connected in the Implicate Order but became disconnected and thats the Explicate Order.

Let me quote from David Bohm and F. David Peat's book, Science, Order and Creativity.

....consciousness is much more of the implicate order than is matter.

they go on to say:

First of all, it is clear that thought is definitely in the implicate order. The very word implicate, meaning enfolded, suggest that a train of thoughts is actually a process of enfoldment of a succession of implications.

So consciousness is enfolded within spacetime and it unfolds and manifest in the explicate order or the real time that we experience. So the reality that we experience is somewhat an illussion and the true order of the universe is enfolded but unfolds in our worldline. Just like a piece of holographic film produces a hologram.

Bohm explains this, with the example of dropping ink in a jar full of glycerine. When the cylinder in the jar is turned one way the ink seems to spread out and disappear. But when the cylinder is turned in the opposite direction the ink reappears. This is an example on how the true order can either be manifest or hidden.


Adam and Eve were in a state of Wholeness, they had the best of both worlds (macroscopic and microscopic), so to speak. When the fall occured they still retained aspects of both worlds but they were disconnected. Christ came to Redeem man to his original state, and through the study of Quantum Mechanics you can see an inkling of what the Resurrected Body will be like. Christ said that some strain at a gnat and swallow a camel, in other words sometimes people miss the profound because they cant grasp the simple.

Grace is by definition overly simple, it's a Gift, not to be earned or worked for. Also some within the scientific community leave an impression that science is somehow independent of God, this is a false impression. This also leads to atheism and agnosticism. God Created the Heavens and the earth and everything in it, including the visible and invisible. Seperating science from God is like seperating God from His Creation. I talk to alot of kids in college in different chat rooms and it's sad because many leave home with a belief just to hear how science negates that belief, which is FALSE. This is what Quantum Theologica is adressing and will continue to adress, thanks to God.